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Conan Conducts A Staff Review With Writer Laurie Kilmartin | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

Conan Conducts A Staff Review With Writer Laurie Kilmartin | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

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Conan O'Brien deviates from his usual fan interactions to interview one of his staff writers, Laurie Kilmartin, a seasoned stand-up comedian known for her sharp wit. This episode delves into Kilmartin’s unique role in Conan’s writing team, particularly for the upcoming Academy Awards, offering a rare behind-the-scenes look at the high-stakes world of awards show comedy and the creative process of a veteran performer.

👤 Who Should Listen

  • Aspiring stand-up comedians looking for insights into the craft and career path.
  • Comedy writers interested in the unique challenges of writing for major live events like the Oscars.
  • Fans of Conan O'Brien curious about his creative process and behind-the-scenes interactions with his writing team.
  • Individuals interested in the dynamics of a professional writer's room and joke development.
  • Anyone curious about the differences between writing for one's own voice versus another's.
  • Those fascinated by the meticulous and often chaotic preparation for large-scale televised events.

🔑 Key Takeaways

  1. 1.Laurie Kilmartin serves as Conan O'Brien's 'life coach' for testing Oscar jokes, guiding him through stand-up sets and providing crucial feedback on joke efficacy and necessary tweaks (01:00).
  2. 2.Kilmartin was inspired to pursue stand-up after observing both highly skilled and 'not good' comedians, recognizing that the latter can be true inspirations for aspiring performers (04:08).
  3. 3.She maintains a clear distinction between her writing voice for herself and for other comedians, stating, 'There's never been a joke I've written for you or anybody else that I would have done myself' (06:10).
  4. 4.The Oscar writing process necessitates constant adaptation; jokes conceived in December might become irrelevant by showtime due to rapidly changing news cycles and public sentiment (08:12).
  5. 5.Conan O'Brien often gets bored with repeating jokes and prefers to riff, a challenge for structured live performances, which Kilmartin helps him manage by directing his creative energy (09:15).
  6. 6.The physical transition of the writing team from their office to the Dolby Theater creates a significant shift, making the reality of the live Oscar show palpable (14:17).
  7. 7.Lessons from previous Oscar productions include the critical need for better backstage organization of joke cards and material to avoid panic during live changes (17:22).
  8. 8.The writing team navigates potential real-world scandals and current events meticulously, striving to craft jokes that are topical but don't 'go too far' in either direction (18:24).

💡 Key Concepts Explained

Comedy Life Coach

This describes Laurie Kilmartin's role in helping Conan O'Brien prepare for the Oscars. She accompanies him to small comedy clubs, observes his performance of potential Oscar jokes, and provides critical, real-time feedback to refine material and ensure it lands effectively (01:00).

The True Inspirations of Comedy

Kilmartin shares a counterintuitive insight that seeing 'not good' stand-up comedians can be a powerful catalyst for aspiring comics. This observation, rather than solely witnessing comedic brilliance, often sparks the thought, 'Wait a minute, I could do that,' igniting one's own journey into comedy (04:08).

Wasting Time in the Writer's Room

Conan and Kilmartin discuss their writer's room habit of watching random internet videos or TV shows like 'And Just Like That...' for up to half an hour. Conan argues this 'wasted time' is useful if everyone is laughing, believing it fosters creativity and camaraderie, despite appearing unproductive (20:28).

⚡ Actionable Takeaways

  • Utilize smaller, intimate performance venues to test new jokes and material, as Kilmartin does with Conan, to gauge audience reaction and refine bits (01:00).
  • Develop distinct writing 'voices' for different contexts; what works for your personal brand may not be suitable for another performer or project (06:10).
  • Stay agile in your creative projects by constantly updating and evaluating material against current events, understanding that jokes can quickly become outdated (08:12).
  • Allow for spontaneous riffing and unscripted humor in your creative process to keep energy fresh and engage audiences, even while working towards a structured goal (09:15).
  • Implement robust organizational systems for complex projects, especially those with live elements, to manage evolving material and prevent last-minute chaos (17:22).
  • Practice careful navigation of sensitive or scandalous topics in your humor, ensuring that your comedic approach is well-pitched and appropriately timed (18:24).
  • Embrace periods of 'wasting time' in creative environments, as shared laughter and casual diversions can inadvertently spark new ideas and foster team cohesion (20:28).

⏱ Timeline Breakdown

00:00Conan introduces Laurie Kilmartin and the new segment of interviewing staff writers.
01:00Conan describes Kilmartin's role as his 'life coach' for trying out Oscar jokes.
02:04Kilmartin explains how she started on Conan's TBS show after previous attempts for other late-night shows.
03:06Kilmartin discusses her decision to become a stand-up comedian after a college breakdown.
04:08Kilmartin shares how seeing both good and 'not good' stand-up inspired her to begin performing.
05:10Kilmartin recounts learning from a former porn star and bartender at the Holy City Zoo in San Francisco.
06:10Kilmartin discusses the difference between writing jokes for herself versus writing for Conan.
07:11Conan mentions recommending Kilmartin to Jimmy Kimmel and asks about their current Oscar progress.
08:12Kilmartin and Conan discuss being ahead on Oscar jokes but the need for constant updates due to changing news.
09:15Conan expresses his tendency to get bored with jokes and prefer riffing, which is challenging for planned sets.
10:16Kilmartin highlights how Conan's small club sets activate a unique stage persona different from his podcast.
11:16Conan enjoys trying out jokes in LA's diverse ecosystem of comedy clubs.
12:16Kilmartin describes her routine of performing stand-up four nights a week in LA clubs.
13:16Conan finds enjoyment in being a surprise guest at comedy clubs and witnessing audience reactions.
14:17They discuss the impending move of the writing team from their office to the Dolby Theater for Oscar preparations.
15:17Conan and Kilmartin share an anecdote about Ariana Grande singing at an Oscar rehearsal, mistaken for a stand-in.
16:21Conan recalls an experience as a seat filler at a VH1 award show, standing in for David Bowie.
17:22They discuss lessons from last year's Oscars, particularly the need for better joke organization backstage.
18:24They reflect on navigating real-world scandals (like 'Sophia Carla Gasone drama') and crafting appropriate jokes.
19:25Conan describes his dramatic writer's room entrance and their habit of watching TV, like 'Just Like That...'
20:28They debate whether 'wasting time' in the writer's room is useful for creative output.
21:28They discuss the pitfalls of pitching obscure or overly researched joke premises.
22:28Kilmartin recalls a joke about Isabella Rossellini's bed and breakfast that Conan made fun of.
23:30Conan and Kilmartin exchange Irish famine jokes and Conan thanks Kilmartin and Jimmy Kimmel.

💬 Notable Quotes

"The true inspirations are people like, 'How did that ass get up there?'"
"There's never been a joke I've written for you or anybody else that I would have done myself."
"Something that's a joke we might have thought was really funny uh in December is now like what were we thinking? That's not even something people think about anymore. That's out of the news."
"I maintain that wasting time is somehow useful if we're all laughing but I might just be trying to justify I was going to say I think you're just telling yourself that so you could waste everybody's time."

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